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Home My WebLink About2000-08-29 Council MinutesFIRE CHIEFS' MEETING Kneehill County Three Hills Alberta AUGUST 29, 2000 Present Firemen Brian Holsworth, Carbon Robert Jackson Acme, Keith Martin, Three Hills Garnet Bauer and Mike Bauer, Torrington, Tony Regehr, Linden, Lawrence Hogg and Roy Enzie, • Trochu Kneehill County Otto Hoff, Marjorie Vetter, James Hanger, Lonnie Mc Cook, Jennifer Deak and Randy Tiller Kneehill Ambulance Service Rinus Onos Communications Group Red Deer Bruce Heroux Red Deer Emergency Services Dave Harvey and Ted Hickey( 1 r r� The following was distributed to all present Agenda 911 Dispatch Information 911 Call Flowchart Kneehill County Alarm operators' Fire /Rescue Report Mar 13/00 Kneehill Fire and Capital Committee recommendation (approved Mar 21/00) Note all distributions attached and forming part of these minutes Mr Hoff called the meeting to order at 7 30 P M Introductions were made and the meeting was i turned over to Mr McCook. f Mr McCook reviewed the 911 Dispatch handout In response to a question about free lancing, Mr McCook clarified this meant an emergency service would have to be dispatched to attend a scene it could not attend an accident without being dispatched. Mr McCook further noted item #6 on the 911 Dispatch handout was not yet confirmed and had only been mentioned as a starting point Mr Heroux then gave an overview and update of the radio system and the linkage between the Red Deer dispatch and the Wimborne Carbon and Linden radio towers Questions aancing from this presentation included the continued use of the fire phones ( #3777 digit numbers) and auto dialers The Red Deer Emergency Services personnel noted it was a public education process to teach people to utilize the 911 system, this system obtained reliable information, the focus of the Red Deer Emergency services is to dispatch 911 calls and they are not in competition with private emergency numbers /lines It was further noted 911 is also the County's direction Trochu noted its fire department uses pagers and inquired whether this would be a problem The Red Deer personnel noted there are a number of paging systems on the market, they prefer working with an independent paging system dedicated for emergencies, due diligence must be considered and a standard system makes for fewer errors Dave Harvey reviewed the dispatch system and how it works along with the professionalism required and the expectation of using Standard Operating Procedures (SOPS) and the Incident Command System (ICS) The advantages of this system were discussed and the following noted ICS sets out the accountability and responsibility in an emergency it allows the Incident Commander to evaluate an emergency scene resources can be tracked (both equipment and manpower) Examples of emergency situations utilizing this system were reviewed and discussed It was noted SOPS would be standardized by Mr Tiller who would then present them for review Standard SOPS would used by all involved (firemen and Red Deer dispatch) In response to an inquiry about the timeline for fire 911 dispatching, it was noted the technical problems with the radio towers had been resolved the radio consultant was now looking at trouble shooting and toning, the SOPs were needed, need to define expectations of all parties and procedures to ensure service delivery It was agreed a common page out system was the simplest with the same channel but different tones for the fire and ambulance dispatch It was noted it was critical to keep the radio dispatch to 5 seconds 02 words or less) Mr McCook noted the Mr Tiller and the fire chiefs could work out the reporting details training etc (item #6 on the agenda) and also discuss the County s direction for the role of tb Fire /Disaster Coordinator Once these issues were in place the next step would be to implem( the process The Red Deer personnel noted they were looking forward to a long term working team relationship with the firemen Jd/fire/firech ief20000829 FIRE CHIEFS' MEETING Kneehill County Three Hills, Alberta AUGUST 29 2000 The following questions were asked and responses given Status of the tankers and who gets them? Mr McCook noted the tankers were in the County yard with the County crew working on them Mr Tiller was currently assessing all department needs and when this was complete his recommendations would be presented to is the County s Fire and Capital Committee and from there they would go to Council for approval Budget? Comments made as to the approved 2000 budget amounts not being sufficient Mr McCook recommended the fire chiefs' get together with Mr Tiller to discuss their budgets It was noted in the cases of emergency situations, Council would address these incidents separately for budget considerations Input into tankers? Linden requested certain modifications to the tankers to meet their fire fighting needs For example a space between the cab and tanker that would require the lengthening of the chassis at a cost of approximately $1,500.00 The Red Deer personnel, Mr Onos and Mr Heroux left the meeting Time 9 15 AP M Torrington Fire Chief noted his department was promised new equipment for the new fire truck and all that was received was 20 pairs of new gloves This was very disappointing Torrington was advised their equipment request was being reviewed Mr Tiller noted the hoses will be tested and the other hardware was not needed Honorariums? Advised Council still looking at this Mr McCook advised the County was looking at everything Mr Hanger noted it was very important for the firemen to talk with Mr Tiller, he was assessing all departments to determine and define acceptable fair and equitable needs Mr Tiller advised the fire ban had been downgraded and fires allowed in burning pits and the County's landfill sites A comment was made that the attendant at the Linden rubble pit started burning at 4 00 P M and then left at 6.00 P M and why couldn't he start his burn earlier in the day so that he would be on site to monitor it? Suggestion that the Three Hills Capital newspaper print the Fire Ban information in big bold print across the front page A question was raised about a permitted fire burn and Mr Tiller asked whether the local fire chief would accept responsibility for allowing this? Mr Tiller noted he would like to arrange a meeting date with the firemen and inquired as to a suitable time frame for such a meeting The meeting adjourned at 9 50 P M Jd /fire /firechlef20000829 FIRE CHIEFS' MEETIN Kneehill County Three Hills August 29 2000 7.30 P M AGENDA 1 Introduction 2 Kneehill County— Position for 911 Red Deer Communications Group — Radio System anc 4 Red Deer Dispatch — Incident Management System 5 Radio Scanning and Transmitting 6 Reporting a) Details b) List of Men c) Qualifications in Training 7 Other 8 Adjourn JD /coff20000829 911 Dispatch 1 The county has passed a motion to provide 911 dispatch for fire to County fire departments through services provided by RedDeer 2 This service will be operating on Kneehill County radio systems and the County will oversee and determine, use, and designate number of users, maintenance, and any expenditure to the system- 3 In order to provide this service efficiently and in a professional manner throughout the County departments will be required to operate under " The Incident Management System" The County will provide this training ( C -5 ) to all fire personnel and the practical ( C-6 ) will be a follow up for officers and chiefs. 4 Once the service is in place, response to incidents will require 911 dispatch, no more free lancing. 5 The Kneehill County recognizes only two " Rescue Units " in the fleet at this time. When called by 911 dispatch, the call will be to Kneehill Rescue, a location will be given and the appropriate rescue unit will respond to its area and follow scene command. 6 The cluef ,deputy chief, along with two officer will have access to transmit to dispatch. Pumpers and Tankers will also have dispatch capabilities. • • 11 w FIRE Determines location, nature and extent of fire Determines what Station/s response is required from Dispatches appropriate men and equipment Send printout of call information to responding stations printer in of off duty Fire - Medics I and Dispatcher Calls RCMP, NW Utilities, EL & P Chief Officer other responding agencies Responds to all radio traffic, Media inquiries by phone End of Cal Time 15 Minutes to 10 Ma= Caller dials 911 Call answered by 911 Call Answer Operator Red Deer 911 Fire Police or Ambulance What service do you require? AMBULANCE (:•:<. Determines nature of complaint Determines required reapnse ALS, BLS, Rescue (Based on Priority Medical Dispatch System) 0 c 3 Dispatches appropriate men and equipment i5 Contacts responding Unit's and relays r_ further information via radio ° 0 0 m FUpon rder s from Incident End of Cal Time 5 -15 Minutes ander starts call! o in of off duty Fire - Medics I and Dispatcher Calls RCMP, NW Utilities, EL & P Chief Officer other responding agencies Responds to all radio traffic, Media inquiries by phone End of Cal Time 15 Minutes to 10 Ma= Caller dials 911 Call answered by 911 Call Answer Operator Red Deer 911 Fire Police or Ambulance What service do you require? AMBULANCE (:•:<. Determines nature of complaint Determines required reapnse ALS, BLS, Rescue (Based on Priority Medical Dispatch System) POLICE Handed off via dedicated speed line to R.C.M.P Dispatch Center End of Cal Time 30410 Secondsl Note - Multiple calls may be under way at any time 0 w r- 0 Determines what Stationts response is required from Dispatches appropriate men and equipment Send printout of call information to responding stations printer Retuns to caller and garners further information re: patients condition Contacts responding Unit's and relays further patient information via radio Returns to caller and gives pre arrival patient care instructions over phone until responding unit's arrive on scene End of Cal Time 5 -15 Minutes POLICE Handed off via dedicated speed line to R.C.M.P Dispatch Center End of Cal Time 30410 Secondsl Note - Multiple calls may be under way at any time 0 w r- 0 JPERATOR'S REMARKS COMMAND TIME: COMMAND TURNED OVER: COMMAND OFFICER: OFFICER. PIO: UNDER CONTROL. LOSS STOPPO ALL CLEAR INCIDENT NO. ALARM OP'S SIGNATURE EMPLOYEE NUMBER. ZONE # NAME. NAME: NAME. WIND: TEMPERATURE. TIME IN KNEEHILL COUNTY ALARM OPERATOR'S FIRE/RESCUE REPORT LOCATION OF CALL. CALL BACK NUMBER. OWNERS NAME: OWNERS ADDRESS: NAME OF CALLER: EMERGENCY- TIME OFFICER CALLED: /SCENE NON EMERGENCY TIME INSPECTOR CALLED: /SCENE TIME OF CALL. TIME R.C_M.P CALLED: /SCENE DATE: TIME NWU CALLED /SCENE TYPE OF ALARM: TIME ELP CALLED: /SCENE Crews Dispatched @ TIME OUT ON SCENE IN- SERVICE THREEHILLS ENGINE 1 ENGINE 1B RESCUE 1 TROCHU ENGINE 1 TANKER 1 LINDEN ENGINE 1 TANKER 1 ACME ENGINE 1 ENGINE 113 UTILITY 2 CARBON ENGINE 1 ENGINE 1 B TORRINGTON ENGINE 1 OTHER MEDIC MEDIC JPERATOR'S REMARKS COMMAND TIME: COMMAND TURNED OVER: COMMAND OFFICER: OFFICER. PIO: UNDER CONTROL. LOSS STOPPO ALL CLEAR INCIDENT NO. ALARM OP'S SIGNATURE EMPLOYEE NUMBER. ZONE # NAME. NAME: NAME. WIND: TEMPERATURE. TIME IN March 13 2000 Fire and Capital Committee Recommendation for direction of Fire /Disaster Coordinator 1 The Coordinator works through administration to revise the fire agreements to reflect the County's direction 2 To work on and put in place a basic level of training for all departments and set goals (e.g Fire Fighter I, Fire Fighter Il and Pumper A) These departments have to be accountable along with having proper training for liability purposes 3 Implement "Incident Command System' as a Standard Operating Procedure for all County departments 4 At this point in time the County is willing to provide one pumper and one tanker to its County departments along with recognizing two rescue units one in Linden and one in Three Hills 5 County Fire Chiefs' will report and answer to the Coordinator, who in turn answers to the Administration 6 The Coordinator and Administration will make recommendations to the appropriate committee level as to the needs of the department 7 Administration will report to Executive or Council on the day to day running of the departments by the Coordinator Above recommendation approved by Kneehill County Council on March 21, 2000 JD /corr20000829