HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-01-06 Council MinutesAGENDA JANUARY 6TH, 1986
COUNCIL MEETING
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1 Wage Negotiations
Appointments
9 15 A M -
Keith Smith
9 30 A M -
Rick Vickery
9 45 A M -
Cris Rodger
10.00 A M -
George Rempel
10 15 A M -
Norman Soder (& Art Thomas)
10.30 A M -
Edward Dunay
10 45 A M -
Alex Cunningham
11 00 A M --
Jean Wilkinson
11.15 A M -
Herman Martens
11.30 A M -
J C Jeffery
11 45 A M -
?? Ken Thompson ? Lyle Gelinas ? Myles Maerz
Lunch
1 00 P M - Meeting with Employee Committee
Note. Lori Gales indicated that income tax, C P P & I C is up a certain
percentage and would like a small amount more than what is required
to cover these increases
Jennifer Deak - is happy with situation but would be happy with an
increase
Sandi Matus - Office requests some leeway for an increase for her later
in 1986
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COUNCIL MEETING JANUARY 6TH, 1986
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The special meeting of Council which was set for today
commenced at 9.10 A M , Monday, January 6th, 1986 with the
following persons present.
J Finlay Code
Otto Hoff
Robert E Boake
Harold Mueller
Bruce Hastie
Reginald G Campbell
Division 1
Division 2 (Reeve)
Division 3
Division 5
Division 6
Division 7
J C Jeffery Municipal Administrator
Mrs Jean Wilkinson, Assistant Administrator was present and
recorded the minutes
It was noted Councillor Maerz was absent due to a back
problem
Council reviewed the salary survey done by Mr Jeffery
Mr Jeffery noted that Keith Smith will not be in for an
interview with Council today due to a death in his family
Council reviewed Mr Smith s salary as shop foreman and it
was noted he is below the average paid by the surrounding
municipalities Keith had indicated to Mr Jeffery he
did not feel it was necessary for the shop to be open 10
hours a day in the winter time and he also felt he should
receive as much or more than the mechanics
There was discussion about whether other municipalities pay wages
while the employees are traveling to the job site, the
possibility of reduction of pay for the time the men are
travelling to the fob site, and the amount of average time over
the year spent on travelling time
It was noted allowing the men to travel to the job site on M D
time was given as a wage increase many years ago
Rick Vickery entered the meeting at this time - 9.35 A M and his
1985 wage rate was discussed with him It was noted by the
survey his wages would be about $300 00 under average
There was discussion about hours of work overtime and
travelling time, and Rick felt travelling time would not average
more than one hour per day He was asked why he was not paid by
the month as the other foremen are, and he noted he would prefer
to stay on the hourly rate He asked if council was satisfied
with the way the crew has been operating and Mr. Code noted the
crew leaves a good impression with the ratepayers and this is
very favourable for them The crew look after the small details
such as clean up & where to place the culverts, which the people
appreciate
It was noted that Starland, Wheatland, Red Deer and Stettler are
pay wages while the employees are traveling from the shop to the
job site
County of Mountain View does not - the employees punch a time
clock on the job site Rockyview supplies a bus but does not
pay wages until the men arrive on the job site.
Rick advised Council that he would like the Raygo Ram packer
replaced in 1986, but this was the only large piece of machinery
which he felt should be replaced this year
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Rick left the meeting and Oris Rodgers entered at 10.00 A.M.
Mr Jeffery reviewed the salary survey and noted Oris is about
$500 00 low on average Mr Jeffery also advised council that
Oris has taken alot of responsiblity on this past year
for fobs which fall into the "grey areas" and has cleaned up alot
of these small fobs which have accumulated over the past three or
four years
Oris indicated there is quite a difference between the foremens'
pay, they try to do the best job possible, he is usually at the
shop 15 minutes prior to the crews coming in, gets overtime after
9 hours, receiving less pay than the gravel foreman, and advised
council that the foremen do get together to review projects.
Oris also advised council that Bud Haskell is one of the men he
depends on alot and asked that he be considered in a special wage
category. He is a very good man and can run most of the M D
machinery
He also asked if they could haul the gravel for the road project
in Division 6 this winter, and after discussion it was agreed
perhaps this work could be done during spring ban time
There was discussion about the traxscavator and it was noted it
still overheats as there is no cooler on the hydraulic system
Oris left the meeting and George entered at 10 20 A M
Mr Jeffery reviewed the results of the survey and is appears
George is somewhat above average in relation to other gravel
foremen George noted that according to his last memo he is to
run a machine on one shift of the gravel crew and work an 8 hour
day He felt this was not fair and wondered why he was cut down
to an 8 hour day He reviewed with council what he usually does
in a day - goes to the job site at 7:00 A M , gets the loader
started stays around till the second shift and gets that shift
going He also goes out on Sunday to start the light plant
George was advised he has the right to draw any person from the
shop or other employees (other than mechanics) to run a loader or
a truck and if there is no one else available then he should run
the loader or drive a truck There was discussion about George
being in charge of one shift and Myles being in charge of the
second shift, but George noted the two shifts alternate one
working days one week and nights the next week He did not feel
he should have to work shift work after 25 years with the M D
He also felt that with radio contact it was not necessary to have
someone in charge of the second shift and it would not be fair to
expect Myles to work the second shift (afternoon shift) on a
permanent basis The shifts run from 7 00 A M to 3.00 P.M.
and from 1.30 to 9.30 P M and George noted he works from 7 00
to 4:00 P M It was suggested the sub foreman should work the
second shift all the time, and after further discussion it was
suggested that Geroge should appoint someone on the second shift
to be in charge on the alternate weeks when Myles is not working
the second shift
There was discussion about the 4 men who get paid for 9 hours per
day in the winter time, but are not regular shop employees,
whereas the rest of the men get cut back to 8 hours per day
There was discussion about gravel stock piling this winter and about
the need for a public works superintendent which might eliminate
some of the employee conflict problems which seem to be coming
up such as hours of work rate of pay etc.
Mr Hastie moved that Mr Rempel be authorized to appoint one
member of the gravel crew to be in charge of the second shift (if
Myles Maerz is not working on that shift) without any increase in
pay, if Myles is not willing to work permanently on the
second shift and further moved that the office is to be advised
by radio who is in charge, George is to continue working the day
shift, and has the full right and authority to pull any available
employee to fill a vacancy on either of the gravel crew shifts,
using Oris last and Rick second last, and excluding the shop
mechanics and he is to operate a loader or truck if there is
no one else available to fill the vacancy CARRIED
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Mr Rempel left the meeting and Norman Soder entered at 11:25
A M
Mr Jeffery reviewed the survey results with Mr Soder and it
indicated Mr Soder is about $3287 above average Council was
advised that Mr Soder is in his last five years of work before
retirement
There was discussion about Mr Thomas' salary and how he had
dealt with his job in 1985
It was noted he did have some problems dealing with the A S B
employees but is quite intelligent and likely should get a
reasonable raise in 1986
Norman indicated he is now 62 and will likely work for another
two years or so as he would like to pursue some research
particularly with control of Toad Flax It was generally agreed
that Art should continue to manage the A S B crew this summer
It was noted that the temporary A S B employees were not happy
with their rate of pay in 1985 as they did not get any increase
and there was concern expressed about the rate of pay given the
sprayer truck operator, who was a new employee in 1985
Norman recommended that Art and the temporary employees receive a
pay increase in 1986, and he noted that an Ag Fieldman with only
2 1/2 years experience was receiving more money that he was.
Mr. Soder left the meeting and Ken Thompson entered
Council discussed with Ken what effect going back to an 8 hour
day had on his salary for 1985, and he advised council he is
presently working a 9 hour day He was told to work 9 hours per
day by the foremen and would prefer to stay on a 9 hour day in
the winter Ken also indicated he would like Robin Thiessen and
Lonnie McCook back on his crew this summer if possible
He indicated that the cat and buggy should be okay for a few
years yet There was further discussion about whether the M D
crews should all be working a 9 hour day in the winter time
frame
Ken left the meeting and the meeting adjourned for dinner at
12:00 Noon
The Council meeting resumed at 1.00 P M , and the employee
committee of Sandra Weir, Gary Berquist, Robert Gundlach, David
Flannagen, Brian Sowerby and Glen Wagstaff entered the meeting.
Mr Jeffery reviewed the salary survey and the employee committee
was given a copy of the survey results
Glen indicated the mechanics feel they are underpaid and the
survey results appear to confirm this
Brian indicated the employees felt a 10% increase should be
considered, but also noted that a 10% increase would not bring
the mechanics up to average as shown by the survey results
It was noted that most of the M D operators are senior
classification
It was also noted that most of the operators are cut back to a
winter rate during the winter time and are also cut back to an 8
hour day
The survey indicates the operators are behind by 41 cents,
whereas in 1983 they were above average by 9 cents
Sandra asked why the operators who run a snow plow truck are
considered to be operating in the winter time and get paid their
operating rate, but the gravel truck drivers are not considered
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There was discussion about the mechanics and welders and the fact
that they have earned tickets and therefore should receive a
higher rate of pay
Council indicated that some of the mechanics earned their tickets
while employed by the M D and the M D had assisted them in
getting their tickets It was suggested that experience is a
great asset and perhaps the more experienced mechanics should
receive more money.
Glen indicated that the M D will be losing two of its more
experienced men in a year or two - Harvey Jesske and Alan Hazel -
and they should be considering hiring apprentices to replace
these people when they do retire. He indicated there is always
lots of work to do at the shop and now they are somewhat short
staffed as David Tetz is in school and Lyle Gelinas has been put
on a gravel truck He also suggested Council might consider
having students from high school come to the shop for work
experience They could sweep the floors and clean up and assist
the mechanics and leave the mechanics free to do the mechanic
work
David Flannegen noted that all the main crew is experienced and
all are senior operators, and senior operators are about $1.10
below average
Brian asked if the $300 00 bonus was given in lieu of the 1 1/2
percent incentive pay discussed by council at the beginning of
1985, and the employees were advised council was unable to come
up with an incentive pay system which would be fair and equitable
to all employees
It was suggested perhaps there might be two or three levels of
pay for a certain job so that an employee could work towards the
higher levels
It was indicated that the M D has pretty good working conditions
- good shops, cabs on machinery, heaters etc. and this should
be taken into consideration by the men
Gary Berquist indicated the employees, particularly the main
crew, do not want to lose the benefit of being paid for
travelling time, and they would like the job to continue to start
when they arrive at the M.D shop
There was further discussion about the wage difference between
the senior operators and mechanics and Glen indicated he had to
supply his own tools and only received $250.00 a year tool
allowance He did not think it was sufficient as everyone uses
his tools and he was supplying tools for the employees which he
felt the M D should supply - such as air impacts, etc
The contract was mentioned and Brian noted the employee committee
did not feel it would help to review the contract again this year
as Council does not appear willing to make any changes to it It
therefore appeared to be a waste of time for both council and the
employee committee. None of the changes requested by the
employees with the exception of the holiday change, have been
granted by council in the past two years
Mr Code asked the employee committee to ensure all employees are
aware that if an unsafe working condition exists or it
s developing they should advise their foreman or the office
Council is very concerned about this matter and want to make sure
the employees are aware of their concern.
There was a suggestion made that a basic travel time rate be
paid, and a higher rate of pay be set for the productive hours of
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Glen noted that all the machines are ready to run when the crew
arrives at the job site and have been serviced so there is no
lost time when the crew arrives. They get on the machines and
start work immediately. Therefore they do not feel the travel
time is as great a problem as it appears on the surface
He noted he gets up at 4.30 in the morning during summer time in
order to be on the job and have the machines ready when the crew
arrives
The employee committee left the meeting at this time
Edward Dunay entered the meeting at this time. Mr. Jeffery
reviewed the salary survey and it indicated Edward's salary is
above average Edward review figures he had obtained and noted
that Municipal Affairs Level 4 Assessor will receive $41,604
in 1986 The average for a Level 4 Assessor is about $40,000
Edward reviewed the work he does for the M.D., noted about
$40,000 would be reasonable and also advise the increase
given by the government to their assessors is about 3s
Edward left the meeting at this time, and Alex Cunningham entered
the meeting 2.35 P M
Mr. Jeffery reviewed Alex' salary and the survey results and it
appears Alex is below average for a Utility Officer and
Development Officer
Alex noted that Alberta Utilities and Telephones pay a grant
towards his salary and the RRAP agency fees bring in considerable
money The agency .fee has been increased from $400 00 an
application to $600 00
Alex noted that he uses the RRAP work as a fill in so he is
always busy Development permits have been slow in 1985 but
better than 1984. He also noted he has been with the M D for 15
years He advised council that Robert Kennedy has been taking
courses with regard to sewage and water maintenance and has taken
over the responsibility for this work. He would like Robert and
he to be able to attend the Operators' Seminar to be held in
Banff in March He also noted that John Binet has taken alot of
the work load with regard to radio repairs It was noted that
making use of John Binet for radio repairs was never discussed or
authorized by council.
Alex left the meeting at this time
Mrs Wilkinson reviewed with Council her wishes for 1986 wages
She indicated she is happy with her fob and would like a
reasonable increase in order to cover the increased costs for
income tax, C P P, U I C, etc
She also discussed with council salary situation and work being
done by Lori Gales, Sandi Matus and Jennifer Deak, and she asked
for a reasonable consideration for them Mr Jeffery noted that
neither Lori nor Jennifer wished to meet with Council but they had
expressed their wish for a reasonable increase to cover increased
costs
The results of the salary survey for stenographers etc were
reviewed
Mr Jeffery noted that in order to bring people up to average
rates of pay as per the survey it would require $70,000 without
any other increases
The amount of tool allowance paid to the mechanics was discussed
and there was a suggestion that the tool allowance might be
increased to $300 00 per year and also that the shop should be
supplying the large air impacts
The amount of machinery which will have to be purchased in 1986
was also discussed and it was noted this will include a loader
and a packer
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Herman Martens entered the meeting at this time and Mr. Jeffery
reviewed the survey results for accountants It indicates that
Herman is under the average pay for accountants in municipalities
touching the M D
Herman indicated he would be satisfied to be brought up to
average.
He also expressed thanks to council to the tape streamer
purchased last year, as it saves him considerable time in backup
on the computer
He also indicated he is quite happy with the work Jennifer is
doing and noted that having Sandi Matus on staff relieves
Jennifer so she is able to work more on accounting work
He also indicated he has been here for 8 years. He suggested the
possibility of the staff being made more aware of what council
has passed - possible with a staff meeting perhaps including the
foremen, in order to review information from the last council
meeting
He advised council he takes backup tapes of all M D work home in
order to ensure there is always back up information available in
case the office was destroyed by fire
He then reviewed the possiblity of acquiring a new computer
i- system for the M.D. in 1986 Burroughs has a B -25 system which
they would like to test out in one or two test sites and they
would be willing to provide the hardware at a reasonable price
and the software required at a much lower price that normal if the
M D. would be willing to be a test site for the new equipment and
programs Cost would be about $36,00 to $40,000 Otherwise it
would cost over $60,000 He asked that if council did not wish
to proceed with a new computer system this year that they budget
for a portion of the funds in the 1986 budget He noted the
maintenance contract on the existing system is over $13,000 00 a
year and on a new system would be about $4000 00
He also noted that gravel inventory and shop inventory could be
put on the new system as Burroughs (through Matt Bonnert) would
be writing new programs for this
Mr Martens then left the meeting
Mr. Hastie moved that Council approve of discussion and
consideration of items other than wage negotiations at this
meeting
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Mr Jeffery noted the annual curling bonspiel is to be held on
January 10th at Didsbury and the M D rink will curl at 9.00 A.M.
It was agreed Otto Hoff, Robert E Boake J. C. Jeffery, and two
other people attend as representatives of the M D
Mr Jeffery advised council he had discussed with Tim Shearlaw of
the Capital the fact that not much M D news has been reported J GJ
lately and they wondered if council would like to publish the
minutes of each meeting After discussion of this matter and d�s`us
noting that other municiaplities do this Mr. Boake moved that
the M D council meeting minutes be edited by Mr Jeffery and the
edited version be printed in the local paper, that thses may be ®�
printed prior to receipt of final approval by council but the
notification "not approved - subject to change must also be
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printed. WS
CARRIED
There was further discussion about the 1986 wage negotiations and
r. Mr Boake moved this meeting do now adjourn
CARRIED
Reeve
Time 6 :50 P M
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